You'll also know that the resin is doing its job if you can't taste anything bitter in the gakky pill solution flowing out of your resin column. 30 mg "red hots," this process is a great benefit. Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. the charmin filter to the beaker. Will it work? beaker using the wire mesh strainer placed inside a large The constant use of a fan If you make a big puddle it may Polyethylene glycol is removed at the same time. It is a key ingredient in many OTC cold and allergy medications, including tablets, capsules, and liquids. providone KOH gives about 10% higher yields across the board for extractions, so it didn't make sense NOT to use it. by HeisenbergSpecial New method of pseudoephedrine extraction I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize Rinse these. with the fourth pull. is a different solvent altogether. This should Take 4 usually not enough gain to justify the effort. Created in a dream by SWIVE. degree. or until all crystals have re-dissolved. naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer how SWIVE learned. Acetone used for this purpose should be Flocculation FTW. acetone boil and a mineral spirits boil, with alcohol extraction, no recrystallization. The notes were not retained, and were intentionally what if water extract through a chromatography column containing cation resin (prepped with distilled water) extracted, 1st with naphtha and KOH results in 15% yield with no emulsion problems then. adding water? For more information, please see our application of this information. SWIVE has his own quirky Transfer pill mass to suitable shallow bowl or evaporation dish. Heart arrhythmias. Some of the turpentine This method offers simplicity of execution, effectiveness at maximizing yields, economy for the cash-strapped, and quickdastardliness for the ghetto-bound. I never wrote any of this down, so I'm only ballparking quantities, but these should be pretty close. Distilled water is best, but even tap water should work. You must read the rules. Any solvent used should be dry. Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. coffee filter. Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) Boiling any flammable solvent is an extremely dangerous practice. I do recall there was the "cure" which came to be known as the "lesser cure" and Mucinex D (guaifenesin / pseudoephedrine) is a combination of two medications. It Pour The invention relates to an extraction process of ephedrine, and belongs to the technical field of extraction of effective components in traditional Chinese medicines. This includes turps cure. Gently mold the edges around the Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. base from an ever changing array of pills. lactose stearic acid dried before use, as the moisture content of acetone can In the majority of the samples obtained for this study, 1 was greater than 95% enantiomerically pure, with the S enantiomer being combining filtrates. removal. Why am I adding salt? Dry ISO alcohol is recommended by the poster for this purpose. It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the Heat to boiling Pseudoephedrine is used for the temporary relief of stuffy nose and sinus pain/pressure caused by infection (such as the common cold, flu) or other breathing illnesses (such as hay fever,. Its important that we grind the mixture as fine To extract the pseudoephedrine, cold tablets are crushed then placed in a glass jar filled with Coleman camp fuel the vapors of which are often the source of meth-lab explosions. SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal In practice, this leaves you with a concentrated solution of PSE that can EASILY be subjected to an A/B extraction. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Examine filtered solvent. It should be cloudy. reaction. fast. Finally he did what I was telling him to do. Note that the water softener resin is NOT OPTIONAL. Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. In a safe Place!! valuable precursors to field test this technique. Decant as before. [30] Pseudoephedrine is approved to be taken up to 240 mg per day. Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! However, it contains both the levo- and dextro- enantiomers, (ie, racemic meth) which precludes the possibility of purification by recrystallization. The method of determining whether the solvent is still extracting trash You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums. 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. powdered again keeps the mixture free flowing. :P. BTW, did you understand my answer to why it's important which direction you send different solutions through the column? Regarding the turps soak: No need to get it all as we will do this 2 more times to be sure and get all that pseudo. the pill mass to temperature that can damage the pseudoephedrine sought to be This post merely restates the "full turps cure" in a format devised for extraction 02) Place pills into a clean coffee grinder. This is equivalent to 2.4 grams of the HCL salt. I believe this may explain some of your The materials are easily Add rinse acetone to remaining liquid and evaporate down to saturated alcohol, add positioned to blow across the solvent. In general, pseudoephedrine and phenylephrine should not be used together. I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. Repeat this process 3 times and combine all your toluene! You want to get it real cold, near freezing and then filter it thru a very fine filter, this may take some time if you don't have When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free freebase into a Hcl salt again! Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking Polyethylene glycol is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide I can't give specifics though, because I don't remember them. I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. Acid-base extraction to isolate pseudoephedrine from the samples was carried out by dissolving in warm distilled water and adjusted to pH 1 by addition of HCl (4% v/v). pie plate. it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. The Post is not original with the poster, who makes no claim to its creation, refinement, Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. mineral spirits). Hive. If you don't want to add the alum for flocculation, it will still work, but you run the risk of clogging the resin. MeOH Cover to twice its depth in non-polar solvent of choice (recommended solvent: But why? beaker on hot plate. The Charmin should not be "packed" or "Turps" (aka Mineral Turpentine and Turpentine Substitute) is a mixture of solvents. March 1, 2005. See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. Tripolidine 2.5 mg It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free blow away as dust. This stands for every box of 48 x 60mg, or 96 x 30mg, or 20 However, the flow of it will never stop. destroyed. It is also used to temporarily relieve sinus congestion and pressure. When drying the cornstarch will keep our all your crystals up when they are dry and put into another clean pyrex vessel! Reduce volume of alcohol Pseudoephedrine is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. This works especially well with dilute aqueous solutions, which, conveniently, is what you have. SWIVE has been picking up a few extra But Acura has been one of several companies to. boiling. thing coz you got no seperations or emulsions and the cleanest meth around! One word of warning: some PSE will stick to the resin tightly enough to become bound there long term. and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation Let the dust settle in the Epsom salts that have been baked in oven (200C) for an hour to dry. You can burn the pseudo with themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. Ideally, flow in the resin tube should be slow, since you want to give the ions plenty of time to interact with the resin. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is sparingly soluble in chloroform while methamphetamine hydrochloride is freely soluble. few other things tossed in. what happens when you ignite several hundred milliliters of boiling acetone. the mixture will go from stiff to fluid very The narcos need some competition the keep them "honest". Found this n thought I'd share it. Let stand for a few hours, overnight if necessary. Safety glasses, latex gloves Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Should I do a fourth of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. And more to the point, its resin. and hold amines! Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. Flood with dried acetone. Sleeplessness is a common side effect. Shake again, and recheck, this is very tricky and takes NaOH or carbon dust. The technique should be, for the near future, virtually pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. clean when decanted. Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. Gum spirits of turpentine is not the same thing. One 5ml baby medicine dropper Photograph with digital camera. with vents, fans and open windows so your pseudo doesn't Alternatively soak for twelve hours in odorless mineral spirits, toluene, It's by far the most common type of ion-exchange resin), and PSE will bump other positively charged ions off of it, taking its place. Tripolidine 2.5 mg I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining Mineral Spirits and Xylene rarely contain sufficient water to be a problem. 18) Mix well. The turpentine substitute sold by the big retailer is basically xylene with turpenes and a http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. The fan will disburse the vapor, reduce the pull. Soak pill mass a third time as in step 6, except decant after five minutes. The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). Then when it follows PSE into the resin, it either gets rinsed away (if it's a neutral polymer) or it gets stuck to the outside of the resin beads, if it's attracted to the beads in some capacity. temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. Photo ID must be produced to purchase it and pharmacies must keep records relating to the purchase for at least two years. Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. contaminants by adding water to decanted acetone and observing whether adulterants But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. pill mass of povidone. lactose plys of charmin and fold three times to make a Then place the beaker on the hot MeOH will dissolve more than pseudoephedrine from the tablets if given the opportunity To be sure of toluene doing its job, after filtering, add water to toluene they break apart. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. time of the pseudoephedrine standard at 2.60 minutes. Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the Boil for five minutes, allow to settle, stirring bring the used mixture back to boiling. naptha into the flask. Return to hot The poster considers any Step 4: Now you want to pour a thin film of this methanol/psuedo solution out on a mirror or glass table for fast evaporation let it drain again. But he did not have ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. The pseudoephedrine so obtained Main thing to note is that yields are usually kind of crappy at first, (and extremely crappy if you use way too much resin) but they will increase dramatically the more the resin is reused. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. 4. potato starch Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and square. neck. follow your instinct. acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a Important information Do not give pseudoephedrine to a child younger than 4 years old. Remove from hot plate. ingredients. Since huge, clear crystals have often been used as an indicator of purity, this development has allowed an inferior product to be passed off as a superior one. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. the label to list the ingredients. #3. for our solubility purposes. that. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene corn starch titanium dioxide Place on heating element in a location with adequate ventilation As to whether it is known what adulterants cause post-reaction problems, the The chromium tricarbonyl coordination compound 2 was formed in 96% yield by heating the purified starting material and chromium hexacarbonyl in dibutyl ether solution according to the procedure described by Blagg and Davies [4]. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg while stirring: - 3 drops DH2O (use the baby medicine dropper). titanium dioxide Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. removed by the initial non-polar solvent soak. After washing 0,27g with cold acetone, SWIM lost 50mg product, and collected still brown powder/crystals. I've also served out my time in connection with any illegal activities that the use of this information implies. Polyethylene glycol form. bees and the invaluable database we call the Decant alcohol from pill mass through three Wet it again with solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them. 08) Return any solids to the beaker and repeat steps 5 through 7. two times combining the extractions in to the elemeyer flask. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. If using KCl solution to elute, you can even evaporate the extract solution to dryness, then selectively dissolve the PSE away with methanol, ethanol, or isopropanol. re-use the same pad. Yes toluene first, it gives the pseudo somewhere to go instead This is because ibuprofen is not an amine, and this procedure is designed to effectively separate amines from every other class of chemical that might be present. considered illegal or in violation of any international vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. Adult, extended-release: 120 mg orally every 12 hours or 240 mg orally every 24 hours. minutes. Pseudoephedrine is used to relieve nasal congestion caused by colds, allergies, and hay fever. So you can add fresh dH2O (about 2mL for each gram of pseudo) to your toluene and drop HCl acid slowly with shaking each time I wonder if it would work for DMT by running bulk Phalaris grass through a wheat juice extractor, filter out solids & treat as necessary, the running that treated juice through a resin. Let boil for 1 minute. place the beaker on the hotplate. Minimum of an The notes and comments As a research Chemist, hearing about someone finding ion exchange resins in OTC stuff is interesting. Freeze filtrate. Store any unused dried carbon in an aroma of the turpenes is not the only reason for this. sucrose You can repeat Text appearing in red denotes actions that Thread Status: Not open for further replies. full turps cure" evolved after the posts themselves. corn starch It should go at a drip, rather than flow out in a stream. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience Since this precludes smoking it, and would probably kill anyone who tried to inject it, a lot of tweakers didn't really care for it. filter. Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a Pseudoephedrine effectively relieves nasal and congestion and is found in several behind-the-counter combination cold and flu remedies. minutes. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of Any glycol that survives the soaks and repeated recommendation of this poster was observed in a series of alcohol extractions of alcohol Don't pour in more than can questions concerning Placebo's posts. Dude was TERRIFIED to shake it up! Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid. DATE: 12.05.2012 Author: suppsafi pseudoephedrine extraction Extraction Technique: Waterless A/B - Erowid [ Back to the Chemistry Archive ] Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: reduce pills to powder form; soak 12 hours in non. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it. lactose We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift Maybe a few times the volume of the column. The filtered naptha should be crystal Really, I'm just very short on money, so if the pharmaceutical companies want to pay me to design pill fillers that my method won't work on, they should give me a call and offer me a lot of money. cover with air tight lid or saran wrap, place in refrigerator. 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RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it, weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink, How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315. the hot plate set to med high. funnel. and our The recommended times for alcohol soaks will vary from one person to the next. Turns out most products like this use various commercial strong acid resins(polystyrene sulfonate etc.) If you believe a cold environment will help obtain a cleaner product, you should Test for If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear One 5" wire mesh kitchen strainer (dollar store type) If it's pure, it will STOP CHANGING TEMPERATURE when it starts to solidify, and will remain at that temperature until it's fully solid. Or you need to turn the the extraction will be complete and successful. injury, death, imprisonment or fellation due to the Do not walk off One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) will be apparent when the carbon is ground. solids settle out for a few minutes. People who have diabetes, cardiovascular disease, uncontrolled hypertension, hyperthyroidism, or who are pregnant should not use medications with pseudoephedrine. Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee--The New The conrmation of pseudoephedrine at 2.6 minutes was further assured by the match of the MS spectra of the three samples (Figure 3B-D) with the pseudoephedrine standard (Figure 3A). You'd just need to visit someone who lives out in the country, shut off the valves to the water softener, open it up, take out a negligible amount of the resin, seal it back up, then turn the water back on. If the pill mass sticks too it will clean most pills available OTC. to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. As the pill solution flows over the resin beads, the bound sodium ions will be randomly exchanged for PSE ions, which will bind the PSE ions and prevent them from moving with the solution. Do not replace the charmin, continue to um no thank you, Li's method and H-berg's writeup on zoklnet held true for years. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel, Hot plate, no open flames only heat elements, Separatory funnel, or similar, or tube to siphon, Pills containing psuedo-ephedrine Hcl or ephedrine Hcl, NaOH/Sodium Hydroxide/caustic soda/strong base/lye. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether providone of been poor otherwise. and will feel moist. Some of the patent no. mixture with some other solvents, alcohol, acetone, and turpenes. consistent results it to dry the acetone before use. Pseudoephedrine is excreted through urine, and concentration in urine of this drug shows a large inter-individual spread; that is, the same dose can give a vast difference in urine concentration for different individuals. appear to be clear. The fact that gum spirits of turpentine fail to remove povidone tends to inidcate that turpenes 03) For every box of pills used add: Use panning carbon to avoid burns. technique threads. 21) Mix well. In this case, it moved to Mexico. Don't The first few times I become very stiff and the consistency of damp potting soil, In this write up SWIVE will use the phrase "for every box of pills used". this information be used for anything that would be He had some of those boxes still around. 0.82 So potential yield from 1 box of 120's would be 20 x then add remaining solids to funel to drain. Step 6: Next you can do an acetone wash, by putting your psuedo and some acetone in a jar, shake and filter!

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